• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Yeah, I’ve got a bunch of Ugreen hardware (external HDD enclosures, USB hubs, adapters, etc.), but there’s no way I’d get their hardware with an OS on it. I don’t trust the brand that much.

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      9 months ago

      You shouldn’t trust ANY brand’s pre-installed OS when it comes to your personal data to be honest.

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        9 months ago

        QNAP is taiwanese and still providing software patches for my 8 year old NAS. I think they are reasonably trustworthy

        But i agree with you, i’m going to build my own NAS from scratch this year…

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          9 months ago

          I have zero trust in QNAP. QNAP knowingly sold several NASes with a known clock-drift defect in their Intel J1900 CPUs and then refused to provide any support. A bunch of community members had to figure out how to solder a resistor to temporarily revive their bricked NASes in order to retrieve their data. https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t=135089

          I had a TS-453 Pro and my friend had a TS-451. Both mine and his exhibited this issue and refused to boot. After this debacle and the extreme apathy from their support, I vowed to never buy a pre-built NAS.

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            9 months ago

            Not to mention the sheer amount of security vulnerabilities they constantly have in their products. I never recommend QNAP for that reason. Out of the box solutions I only recommend Synology. Selfbuild route is uraid and my personal fav. Truenas scale.

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              9 months ago

              Man, I have GOT to try Truenas Scale one of these days. I see it recommended so often, but I was just too used to a standard Linux ecosystem to bother learning something new. I am assuming it gets you closer to the feel of a pre-built NAS during administration tasks compared to Cockpit and a SSH session lmao.

              I think I am just always afraid of being locked into a specific way of doing things by a vendor. I feel like I would get annoyed if something that I could do easily on standard Linux was harder to do on Truenas Scale.

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                9 months ago

                For sure. It’s basically a NAS software appliance. You just need to bring your own x86 hardware. Truenas core was good, but they will stop actively developing soon in favor for scale.

                I have it running both hardware (backup) as well as virtualized (with a special sas/sata card as PCI pass thru). Works like a charm.

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              9 months ago

              Get an x86 Qnap and put Truenas Scale on it - there is no case in that form factor in existence.

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              9 months ago

              Get an x86 Qnap and put Truenas Scale on it - there is no case in that form factor in existence.

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            9 months ago

            Do it anyway and put an x86 OS on one of the “standard UEFI” versions. There’s no other Hardware better on the market for this - even self build isn’t going to come close, there’s simply no case with 8 hotswap slots (for example).

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      9 months ago

      I did order the 4800+. I have no need for the Ugreen OS and will replace it.
      Every report I have read about say that the hardware looks very good for the (kickstarter) price

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        9 months ago

        But if the EFI is locked and you have to use a workaround to boot?

        I’d wait a real review before purchasing a “e-waste bomb”

        The real reason the hardware is locked to their Linux distro is that the moment they discontinue security updates, it immediately becomes e-waste and you have to buy a new one instead of use it until it physically breaks. This approach works great on Apple devices, who have a 5-7 year lifetime from market launch

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          9 months ago

          If Synology decides to not support your NAS it can’t even load anything else. Synology dexided for the DS218j (or DS220j) that it suddenly can’t use BTRFS anymore. If I remember it correctly it was due to not having enough memory.
          But that was only after the upgrade to DSM 7.x
          Yet I see only confused posts on the web instead of rage and “I wont bzy Synology anymore”.

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      9 months ago

      What do people think of their hardware in general?

      I have some caddies HDD and NVMe. I think their gear is fairly mid. some aspects are quite nice but other aspects is dog water.

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        9 months ago

        What do people think of their hardware in general?

        I’ve been very happy with their external HDD enclosures, and various USB chargers.

        Their USB car charger has been the only one to survive Canadian winters and summers for more than a year (going on 4), which is impressive.

        I’d say their quality is as good, or better, than most of the Anker stuff I’ve purchased.

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        9 months ago

        They have some of the best USB cables (strongest, least breakable). Used to be cheap too until they started spending big bucks on marketing.

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          9 months ago

          As a comparison against Anker, the cables are thinner - almost as thin as the cheap unbranded cables. Or at least this is what my ugreen cables are like.