Sure, but if you do that, and then follow it up with often outage and security issues, I’m going to seriously rethink using your services.

Oh, yes we have. Gitlab, Codeberg, Notabug, etc. You can even host your own Gitea or Forgejo instance if you want.

Self-hosting is right out for most people. It’s pretty expensive to even get started without compromising your home network (router with VLAN, switch, multiple servers (at least thinclients)), and then on top of that you need to maintain it, and can’t really ever max out your download/upload speeds because people are depending on your internet to interact with the repo.

Gitlab is also for-profit, but also has blackouts and devs going rm -rf on the production DB. It’s often in the news for bad things, so I’ve generally avoided it.

Codeberg is great for personal repos, but most smaller git hosting services have horrible SEO. Like I’ve had issues finding repos when searching for their exact name, if I had to use general search terms I’d only see github repos.

Gitlab: For profit (wouldn’t say it’s much better than github)

It’s got that added excitement that comes with a risk of someone doing a rm -rf on the production DB

It seems like most of the nice-sounding ones are proprietary.

That’s pretty standard. Most FOSS projects don’t have corporations feeding them 100’s of thousands of dollars per year. Even when they do, well people still say gimp is far worse than ps. Blender is one of the rare complex projects that can compete with proprietary alternatives.

And any ideas why this is an underdeveloped area for open source?

My best guess is that it’s really expensive and time consuming. I’d be surprised if those really good proprietary models didn’t cost $100k+ just for training.

which will happen over and over again until the end of humanity capitalism.

I fixed it for you.

Ever heard of the terms faulty generalisation, sampling bias, or echo chamber?

First time I’m hearing about Waterfox, but it’s strange they’re leaving in the regular tabs. I hope they add the option to remove them instead of having to use custom CSS like in FF.

Horrible naming scheme, and I don’t think I’ve seen the Minetest Game ever mentioned as anything but just Minetest.

Oh ok, now that makes sense. MTG is a horrible acronym, but ok.

I’ve installed Minetest like a month ago and it came with the Minetest game.

At what point did I say it’s not an engine? I’m just denying your claim that it’s not a game…

Edit: I think it’s primarily a linguistic issue. HL, TF, and CS weren’t made using the half life engine, but source engine. Meanwhile Minetest is made in Minetest and distributed through Minetest.

Not really, wc3 and hl are definitely more “gamey” than Minetest, but you can still install Minetest to play and mod Minetest.

Minetest is the game that comes bundled with Minetest.

Sure, it’s a crappy game, but when you install Minetest you can play Minetest, and you install Minetest mods to mod the Minetest game. You can’t use Minetest mods on Mineclone. If you install unity you can’t play unity, you make a game in unity.

Warcraft and half life

Yeah, let me open up Unity for that vanilla gameplay experience, oh wait…

Also, are wc3 and hl also not games because they were used to develop and distribute games that ended up being more popular?