• Lee Duna@lemmy.nz
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      3 months ago

      Yep, my govt only cares about porn, manga, hentai, online gambling sites, reddit and duckduckgo.

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        I have had like 14 while I was still in school here in canada. if things haven’t changed you just ignore them because they can’t do jack if you don’t respond. Someone I worked with was blown away when I told him this because back home he was banned from all but the slowest ISP.

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          Hah I wish we could ignore them. It seems to just vary from ISP to ISP in the US but our small town ISP turns off your connection and puts you behind a captive portal forcing you to click through and accept what you did wrong before your connection is turned back on.

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        Our ISPs are too cheap and lazy to even try looking. I still use I2P, but only because I need to justify my tin foil hats collection.

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        That is supposedly the case in Australia as well but I haven’t got a letter from telstra since around 2004 and I have never used a VPN and watch all my shows and movies via torrents so either I’m extremely lucky or they stopped bothering.

        Though recently I started paying the $4 / month for Real Debrid for better streaming performance, which is just as good as a VPN for torrent anonymity. I used to be fundamentally against the idea of paying anything to pirate but honestly this is worth it, I’ve even been able to watch a few shows that had 0 seeders because they were previously cached.

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            That says their error was trying American threats “we got you dead to rights, tell us your income and we’ll tell you how much to pay our we’ll sue for punitive damages”

            Which isn’t legal in Australia. They would have been ok if they had asked to send a letter saying “stop it or pay us a reasonable amount for one person viewing the film once” but of course actual damages aren’t enough for film companies

            They were too greedy.

            • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              Yeah basically. But part of why no one has tried again is because the judge made it very clear he wasn’t going to just roll over and let them pull their BS. Including setting a bond of $600k for them to even try litigating it. Another part of it is that ISPs used to hand out IP addresses and PII in response to requests from media companies. This was found to be in breach of privacy laws and now those companies would have to apply for court orders, proving malfeasance, to get that information.

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      let’s say that VPNs are compromised and “they” know that you’re downloading “illegally”

      in order to prosecute, “they” have to prove you’re a pirate and show how they know

      would they compromise their backDoor to go after a tiny pirate?

    • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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      In fairness I doubt the NSA give a single solitary fuck about piracy and aren’t about to give themselves up over a telesync rip of Beetlejuice 2.

      But probably best to plan 9/11 part 2 over something a bit more secure.

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        Both are considered strong choices but again… This is 100% trust me bro.

        But that’s the people the bros chose to trust

          • liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Technically speaking, VPN logs tend to include the IP address of clients connecting to them, after which the good VPN providers like Mullvad, IVPN and maybe PIA tend to purge them somewhere in their process. Now, if the VPN is running in a RAM-only node, then these logs probably don’t touch storage, which means there’s not much need to shred information from hard drives for the VPN provider.

            With that said, an ISP can technically log your traffic and see that you’re connecting to the IP range associated with a VPN. That and perhaps some more covert side-channel/correlation attacks can, in theory, compromise your identity.

            Of course, this is going deep into OPSEC and forensics, and I don’t think the NSA is that interested in the average Billy torrenting “The Office” to go through that many logs, even if the studios sue in court. Hence, technically your privacy is somewhat maintained with the good VPN providers, but you’re definitely not anonymous

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              That’s kind of my thought as well. It’s certainly possible someone might go through the effort to find a single pirate downloading The Lion King, but that’s a lot of effort (read: money) to find just one person.

              There’s certainly the possibility that an ISP could note that you connected to a VPN, but given that it’s not a remarkable event, since people connect to VPNs for all kinds of legal reasons, they aren’t likely to track your particular IP’s connection to a VPN apart from a court ordering them to care. They get paid their monthly internet plan price whether someone pirates or checks their email.

              If someone was running the Pirate Bay from their home servers, however, more parties would likely be interested in finding that person, and that person’s threat model probably exceeds just using a logless VPN.

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          Everyone knows it’s impossible for the NSA to buy rack space in Bulgaria, where they literally don’t have to deal with any US legal process.

          It’s also impossible for the NSA to market such a service via pop-privacy blogs and social media profiles.

          The funny part about this is that the Snowden leaks showed that the NSA actually put a lot of effort into doing shit like this specifically to avoid all the paperwork which came with accidentally collecting data from US citizens. Keeping the data and analysis off shore means no pesky FISA paperwork.

          • liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            As he said, paid with crypto and managed with his own keys. I don’t see how the seedbox provider can trace you if you do that, so there’s not that much to worry about

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              You’re going to connect to the seedbox at some point, which ties your IP to the traffic. If you are worried about a VPN attaching your IP to traffic, this is no different, no?

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                SFTP over TOR. This should be a requirement at this point.

                If you’re not doing that, then yes you’re technically right in that seedbox companies can be subpoenaed too. I usually use TOR to copy over what little I torrent.

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          What evidence do you have that no-log VPNs are compromised by the NSA? What about VPNs based in other countries like Canada?

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              The existence of the NSA and their activities is not proof that they have backdoors in VPNs. That’s bogeyman conspiracy theory shit—“they could be anywhere, therefore they’re everywhere!”

              You still haven’t answered the question, and I’m beginning to think you are making shit up based on paranoia.

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              Is your home machine, your phone, better protected than the VPN servers? I bet you’re not as good at IT security as the IT security staff VPN companies hire

              If your threat model includes nation state actors, you’re best off not using networked computers

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                I am all about good tinfoil but some of these people acting as if they are SNOWDEN lol

                Yes if feds wanted to catch you shitposting, watching big titied asian porn and downloading coldplay… I think there raised ways than compromising a VPN provider.

                Unless it is a honey pot, then use a different VPN provider. Gonna need trust at the end of the day.

  • DavidGarcia@feddit.nl
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    I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P I2P

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      Yeah, if you don’t mind it possibly taking a week to download something… Really like the idea, but in practice it’s very slow for something like that, unless you got a lot of seeders for something maybe.

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      I2P

      wait, so this would route my traffic through others’ internet connections and theirs through mine? seems like a great way to get implicated for actually illegal activity, like, say, other people running I2P to download and/or upload certain types of porn.

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        Man, why is everyone like this? Please read the documentation, the traffic is encrypted and metadata cannot identify you. Unless the NSA has an active hack for I2P lying around, NO-ONE IN THIS WORLD can find out what chunks of traffic just went flying by your internet connection

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          sure, but I2P’s end-to-end encryption is for connecting to I2P addresses, not the general internet. I’m unclear on whether every node serves as an anonymized connection to the internet, though.

          EDIT: read a little deeper! so no, not every computer connected to I2P is an internet-connected node, but, due to the limited number of internet-connected nodes, I2P does not offer the same level of anonymity that a VPN does, and may struggle from bandwidth issues.

            • lapis [fae/faer, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              the whole purpose of a VPN is to anonymize internet traffic, so they have many servers that send traffic out to the internet, which improves both anonymity and bandwidth. I2P is more akin to Tor, with anonymizing internet traffic as a bit of an afterthought, and the limited number of internet-connecting nodes makes users’ traffic more trackable.

              • liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                What you’re talking about is supposed anonymity in obfuscation, and that has been proven to not work.

                Also, most VPN companies keep logs and can be subpoenaed. Not all, but most. I2P is meant to anonymize your traffic, so I do not see the point of your statement

                • lapis [fae/faer, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                  What you’re talking about is supposed anonymity in obfuscation, and that has been proven to not work.

                  if it’s been proven not to work, then neither I2P nor VPN is worth using, no?

                  most VPN companies keep logs and can be subpoenaed.

                  well, sure, but that’s why anybody looking into a VPN is generally advised to use specific, known-good VPN providers who don’t keep logs and who, preferably, aren’t headquartered in a country with strict IP law.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        it’s all encrypted, and a darknet, so unless you’re routing through exit nodes, or you host an exit node, that information isn’t publicly accessible.

        the other problem here is the “illegal contents” problem, if UPS accidentally ships a human head in the mail, is that the fault of the UPS? If someone mails a bomb to someone else, is that also the fault of UPS?

        Ultimately, there is little to no reasoning as to why you should be capable of getting into trouble, unless you’re storing it, and it’s a very very strict law. But it’s a router, so it shouldn’t be storing anything.

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    And make sure it’s a VPN that supports port forwarding. Sharing is caring.

    or just use Usenet.

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    I don’t use a VPN because my government has acknowledged that an IP address cannot identify what individual was using it.

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      Explain this to me more thoroughly? Does this mean physically going to the library and using their Wi-Fi? Or are you talking about something else?

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    And please don’t use anime girls to refer to every fucking thing in the world

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      Your ISP sees the connection to news.usenetserver.com and if they cared could get a court order to get your data from them. They can compel you to release your username and password.

      You also need to protect yourself against future law and enforcement