edit: you are right, it’s the I/O WAIT that it destroying my performance:
%Cpu(s): 0,3 us, 0,5 sy, 0,0 ni, 50,1 id, 49,0 wa, 0,0 hi, 0,1 si, 0,0 st
I could clearly see it using nmon > d > l > - such as was suggested by @SayCyberOnceMore. Not quite sure what to do about it, as it’s simply my sdb1 drive which is a Samsung 1TB 2.5" HDD. I have now ordered a 2TB SSD and maybe I am going to reinstall from scratch on that new drive as sda1. I realize that’s just treating the symptom and not the root cause, so I should probably also look for that root cause. But that’s for another Lemmy thread!

I really don’t understand what is causing this. I run a few very small containers, and everything is fine - but when I start something bigger like Photoprism, Immich, or even MariaDB or PostgreSQL, then something causes the CPU load to rise indefinitely.

Notably, the top command doesn’t show anything special, nothing eats RAM, nothing uses 100% CPU. And yet, the load is rising fast. If I leave it be, my ssh session loses connection. Hopping onto the host itself shows a load of over 50,or even over 70. I don’t grok how a system can even get that high at all.

My server is an older Intel i7 with 16GB RAM running Ubuntu22. 04 LTS.

How can I troubleshoot this, when ‘top’ doesn’t show any culprit and it does not seem to be caused by any one specific container?

(this makes me wonder how people can run anything at all off of a Raspberry Pi. My machine isn’t “beefy” but a Pi would be so much less.)

  • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    1 year ago

    It’s sounds like it could be an IO wait issue, system load will climb a ton without showing much CPU usage.

    Make sure you’re not running out of RAM and going into swap space, it doesn’t sound like it though.

    iotop might show something useful. And in htop you can add the 'PERCENT_IO_DELAY" column which can be useful.

    • johntash@eviltoast.orgEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      And I know OP mentioned not using much ram, but almost everytime I see a server load that high, it’s usually because the server is swapping heavily causing the iowait.

    • thelastknowngod@lemm.eeEnglish
      01·
      1 year ago

      Yep. IO.

      OP, this might be overkill for you but it might be worth standing up a grafana/prometheus stack… You’d be able to see this stuff a lot faster and potentially narrow in on a root cause.